You all gotta read this!

[mattkats1]

I rec'd an email the other day from a guy offering me $19,000 for my car. I had to reply that this was wayy lower then even wholesale and that I would not even consider less than $29,000 with the mods, the wheels and the paint job. To my surprise, the guy emails me back today and accepts the $29k, asking me to forward shipping prices to Lagos, Nigeria that a "senator wants the car for his daughter". Has anyone else gotten any emails like this? The only place he could have found out about my car was on this website. I am fairly sure this is a joke but wouldn't it be strange if it was real? Opinions please!

[rachrse]

Matthew it may be a joke but if it's not hey take the money and run . That way you can go for the 03 cobra by the way my 03 is getting the flames now. Rachrse

[Greg@SVTOA]

WARNING!!!
I predict the next e-mail will say: "Please provide us with your bank account number so that we can make a direct transfer of funds into your account"

Then they clean out your bank account.

Nigerian scam e-mail hoxes are rampant on the web. I get these goofy ones that are all similar- they talk about a revolt where some group has millions of dollars that was looted from the national trust, and now these poor souls need a safe place to put the money! So all you have to do is give us your bank routing numbers and we will deposit the money in your account, and you get to keep 20%!!!! So please send us your bank info right away!!"

[Ken 01-Cobra]

Run, do NOT walk, away from this as fast as you can! Unless the guy is going to send you an International Money Order, up front and including shipping, I would have NOTHING to do with this!

No, on second thought, I wouldn't even do it then! They could play games with some local bank and stop the funds on the Money Order or something.

[MadMax]

and send him a Hot Wheels miniature Cobra convertible, after you get his funds. HA,HA!

[rachrse]

Matthew just when you thought you had some rich senator ready to buy your car (that we both know you won''t sell to start with)Greg jumps from the shadows to pop your bubble, good to know someone is watching out for us, with good advice. Rachrse

[Greg@SVTOA]

This too funny!!!! I SWEAR that this just came this morning ( I get these every few days or so!)

I'm going to be a nice guy, and allow any one of you who would like to give Johnny your bank info, a chance to get your millions!!!


JONATHAN MANDE jormande9@netscape.net

ATTENTION,

FIRST, I MUST SOLICIT YOUR CONFIDENCE IN THIS TRANSACTION, THIS IS BY VIRTUE OF IT`S NATURE AS BEING UTTERLY CONFIDENTIAL AND TOP SECRET THOUGH I KNOW THAT A TRANSACTION OF THIS MAGNITUDE WILL MAKE ANY ONE APPREHENSIVE AND WORRIED BUT I AM ASSURING YOU THAT ALL WILL BE WELL AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE HAVE DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU DUE TO THE URGENCY OF THIS TRANSACTION.

LET ME START BY INTRODUCING MY SELF TO YOU I AM MR JONATHAN MANDE AN ACCOUNTANT WITH THE AMALGAMATED BANK OF SOUTH AFRICA. (ABSA) I CAME TO KNOW YOU IN MY PRIVATE SEARCH FOR A RELIABLE AND REPUTABLE PERSON TO HANDLE THIS CONFIDENTIAL TRANSACTION WHICH INVOLVES THE TRANSFER OF A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO A FOREIGN ACCOUNT REQUIRING MAXIMUM CONFIDENCE.

THE PROPOSITION
A FOREIGNER, LATE ENGINEER JOHNSON CREEK AN OIL MERCHANT/CONTRACTOR WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF SOUTH AFRICA, UNTILL HIS DEATH SIX YEARS AGO IN A GHASTLY AIR CRASH, (ETHIOPIAN AIRLINE BOEING 767 ON THE NOVEMBER 23RD 1996) BANKED WITH US HERE AT ABSA BANK OF SOUTH AFRICA, AND HAD A CLOSING BALANCE OF US$21,500, 000 (TWENTY ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ONLY) WHICH THE BANK UNQUESTIONABLY EXPECTS IT TO BE CLAIMED BY ANY AVAILABLE FOREIGN NEXT-OF-KIN OF THE LATE BENEFICIARY OR ALTERNATIVELY BE DONATED TO A DISCREDITED TRUST FUND FOR ARMS AND AMMUNITION AT A MILITARY WAR COLLEGE HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA. FERVENT VALUABLE EFFORT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MY BANK TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ANY OF THE CREEK FAMILY OR RELATIVE BUT PROVED TO NO AVAIL.

IT IS BECAUSE OF THE PERCIVED POSSIBILITY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO LOCATE ANY OF THE LATE ENGR. JOHNSON CREEK`S NEXT-OF-KIN (HE HAD NO KNOWN WIFE AND CHILDREN) THAT THE MANAGEMENT UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF OUR CHAIRMAN AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THAT AN ARRENGMENT BE MADE FOR THE FUNDS TO BE DECLARED "UNCLAIMABLE" AND SUBSEQUENTLY BE DONATED TO THE TRUST FUND FOR ARMS AND AMMUNITION TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE COURSE OF WAR IN AFRICA AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL AND TO UP LIFT THE IMAGE OF THE BANK.

IN ORDER TO AVERT THIS NEGATIVE DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF MY TRUSTED COLLEAGUES AND I NOW SEEK YOUR PERMISSION TO HAVE YOU STAND AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN TO LATE ENGR. JOHNSON CREEK SO THAT THE FUNDS US$21.5M WOULD BE RELEASED AND PAID INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AS THE BENEFICIARY NEXT-OF-KIN, ALL DOCUMENTS AND PROVES TO ENABLE YOU GET THIS FUND WILL BE CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND MORESO WE ARE ASSURING YOU OF 100% RISK FREE INVOLVEMENT, YOUR SHARE STAYS WHILE THE REST WILL BE FOR MY SELF AND MY COLLEAGUE FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSE IN YOUR COUNTRY.

WE HAVE AGREED THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE SHARED THUS. AFTER IT HAS BEEN TRANSFERED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT.

1. 20% FOR YOU FOR ACTING AS THE BENEFICIARY OF THE FUNDS.
2. 5% WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO BOTH PARTIES FOR ANY INCIDENTAL EXPENSES THAT MAY BE INCURRED IN THE COURSE OF THE TRANSFER, (TELEPHONE AND FAX BILLS)
3. 75% FOR US THE ORIGINATORS OF THE TRANSACTION.
IF THIS PROPOSAL IS ALRIGHT BY YOU, THEN KINDLY GET TO ME IMMEDIATELY VIA MY EMAIL ADDRESS jormande9@netscape.net (ONLY) AND FURNISH ME WITH YOUR MOST CONFIDENTIAL TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS AND EXCLUSIVE BANK PARTICULARS SO THAT I CAN USE THESE INFORMATIONS TO APPLY FOR THE RELEASE AND SUBSEQUENT TRANSFER OF THE FUNDS IN YOUR FAVOUR.
THANKING YOU IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR CO-OPERATION.

YOURS FAITHFULLY.

MR. JONATHAN MANDE

[Greg@SVTOA]

Thought you all might find this interesting also, as I have "spam assassin". This program actually references "Nigerian Scam" because so many of these float around the web.
Notice also that "Johnathan" is using a cloaked e-mail address?


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[Ken 01-Cobra]

Heh...it is amazing! For someone needing a quick turnaround, it sure is taking a long time! I got that email at least 6 months ago!

[Greg@SVTOA]

I get that one and the other one about the revolt thing every few days.

[Jstas]

Well, I have to say that it looks too good to be true right off the bat. Secondly, this statement:

THIS IS BY VIRTUE OF IT`S NATURE AS BEING UTTERLY CONFIDENTIAL AND TOP SECRET

Would clue me in pretty well due to the background of my employment. Confidential and top secret are two different classification levels in any country, even Nigeria. Secondly, if it was really that secret and serious, it would not come in an unsecured email. You would most likely get a formal letter amd legal documentation.

I'm glad someone popped the bubble for him. Especially since you can get more by just selling your car to someone here in the states. I always try to approach any offer I get on the Internet with severe skepticism. It's always better to expect the worst in dealing with the Internet. That way, you are never shafted or dissappointed, just pleasantly surprised!

On a side note, when I was in school, there was a member of a high ranking family in Bahrain in my classes with me. He had actually purchased items from people around the world in the manner mentioned above. He said it was not an easy thing to do, require piles of paperwork and import/export clearances and so on and so forth. He did buy a small sports car from a guy in England. I do not remember what it was but he said that the lawyers in his country made him document everything.

[Mike Kievit]

I guess Greg blew the confidentiality of the transaction that these Yahoo's wanted.

I will too. I get those letters all the time. I keep the stamps. They are nice for the collection.lol

I think 10 years ago Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes did a report on this.

MK

[mattkats1]

Before you all assume I am a total bonehead that falls for anything, I too get those Nigerian bank emails each day. This was different as the guy described my car to a "T" and then replied when I answered his first email. Deep down I felt it was a bunch of hooey but it was a unique twist on an otherwise boring day. It did get me thinking about what color my 03 was gonna be!