What should the next group buy be?

[imajsdaddy]

According to several places the Vortech is not worth doing undera group buy as there will not be much of a discount.

Any ideas on what should be the next Group buy? You guys all agree on a part and I'll work getting a group buy discount on it again!

The Focus-central Off Road Pipe was mentioned before... I sold the one I had after the state I live in told me the fine for having it on was $50,000! If you guys want it I'll work on it and see but I won't buy in on it...

So if you have an idea on what we should all get... Post, we'll all discuss and see what we decide for next time... Lets plan on around the beginning of April to start buying the next one... To allow for funds recovery from the 2 that just happened...

So lets hear em'

Jered

[imajsdaddy]

EBC "Redstuff" Street and Track Pads Regular price of $109.95 from http://www.steedafocus.com/ Not totally sure these will fit the SVTF... It doesn't say if it does or not.


Stainless Steel Brake Lines
$99.99 also from http://www.steedafocus.com

Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust Kit for SVT Focus
$309.95 from http://www.steedafocus.com


http://www.focus-central.com/catalog/details.asp?cid=1&sid=&pid=86 FC 65mm TB--SVT Price: $259.00

http://www.focus-central.com/catalog/details.asp?cid=2&sid=&pid=26 FC ORP $199.95

http://www.focus-central.com/catalog/details.asp?cid=3&sid=&pid=46 FC strut tower brace $69.00


here are a few ideas

[DiscGolferGreg]

VF engine mount from Focus Sport.

[svt170]

I'd be OK with some steel braided brake lines.
I definitely want the engine mounts.

I'll add a throtle body to the list of possibilities for a GB. I'll get one in spring anyway.

[imajsdaddy]

Originally posted by imajsdaddy

http://www.focus-central.com/catalog/details.asp?cid=1&sid=&pid=86 FC 65mm TB--SVT Price: $259.00



Here is the Focus central TB.... I though that as well... I'd figure at a $259.00 part, we might be able to get in the $200 ball park if we could get 10+ guys togeather again for it!

If that is what we decide on then we'll see how good of a price we can get!

Can't wait to get another deal going. :D

[ARMED SVT]

I might be interested in a $200 throttle body, but I've read that they really don't make much of a change on the SVT. I ordered that focus performance book from c-f-m so I'll have to see what their review says...

[bry-svt]

like DiscGolferGreg

said....VF engine mount from Focus Sport. :tmb:

[swimmernate]

What does an engine mount do for your car anyways? Seriously.

I would try and get in for a TB.

[imajsdaddy]

I think the engine mounts make the engine vibrations through the car less... Thats it right?! Nothing more nothing less.

[svt170]

Under hard acceleration the engine tends to move or twist more than most would prefer. I sometimes notice a loud THUMP when I "launch" my car from a stand still. The OEM mounts are very soft, to allow for daily driving to not be overly harsh. The aftermarket mounts are much stiffer, and keep the engine from moving too much inside your engine bay.
That being said, and because I do not have an aftermarket mount, I really do not know how much this will affect your ride. Not to disagree with imajsdaddy (because I really don't know for sure) but I would think these little buggers will put MORE vibrations through the chassis, not less.
The mount we are looking at in this thread seems to be nothing more than a peice of aluminum and a poly bushing, which is why I haven't ordered one yet for the $100. On top of that, it seems we can only get the rear mount for our cars. Is that all we need on our cars? What about the drivers side mount that is still "coming soon". And do our SVT's not have a passenger side mount?
Maybe the $100 is worth it, I mean it's the end result that matters, right?

[Infra-Red SVT]

How about a AEM Cold Air Intake?

[helga123]

It may be difficult to get universal agreement on mechanical goodies beyond the 2 parts so far. Perhaps the Redline hood struts have a good shot though.

I could go for a really high quality, nice sounding (i.e. non fart pipey) exhaust that's O.K. in a smog state. I'm waiting for the Vortech issues to sort out & want to do the full package there, without having to throw previous mods in the trash, so I'm out for anything that might conflict with this direction.

BUT, the thing I think that would be really neat, and would perhaps appeal to many (including other SVT people) would be some sort of a "everything you need for stellar results" Zaino Bros. package, so our paint is stylin'.

For 2 years I've been hearing the Cobra guys rave about this stuff & would love to try it. Given that this probably involves clay, cloths, Z this & Z that, researching "The Focus Package" would be Part 1 & seeing if they'll deal is Part 2, I would guess.

Since everyone has, uh, paint, this could be cool. You know how it is, even with a cabinet full of detailing stuff, you always want to try the "hot product" which this supposedly is.

What do you think?

[svt4real]

orp pipe please!!!!!!!!!!!

[Interceptor2k]

I like the ideas of the Brake lines and the engine mounts.

Motor mounts will definitely add more vibration / sound to the cabin, especially with the rear torque mount in SVT170's post. However, I do not know how much in this case. I had them on my old MR2, for me it enhanced the whole experience!

[svt4real]

just buy the replacement bushings from energy susp. at a cost of 17 dollars retail takes about 15 minutes longer but saves you about $80.00 plus!

[Nevik]

orp sounds great!! Let's go with a off road pipe!

[Interceptor2k]

Originally posted by svt4real
just buy the replacement bushings from energy susp. at a cost of 17 dollars retail takes about 15 minutes longer but saves you about $80.00 plus!


Cool - I did not know that you could get just the inserts. I feel another weekend project coming on............

[TwinSvts]

I vote engine mounts or a strut tower brace.

[ARMED SVT]

If you're looking for a good non-ricey exhaust you can't go wrong with the borla :)

And I still plan to get a throttle body (pending a good review from the svt book) So if anyone else is interested speak up and maybe we can save some money on it :D

[svt170]

cut and paste of an email to FocusSport.

Hello,
Myself and a few other SVT Focus owners are discussing the benefits of your engine mounts. Aside from what your website tells us, can you give any more information on this product? Main questions are...
How much will these affect how our cars respond to engine movement and road imperfections?
Will the ride become harsh?
How about engine vibrations becoming harsh?
Is the rear mount all that is needed on the SVT Focus? If not, what else is offered? I see the driver side mount is still not available.
Any and all info you could give would be greatly appreciated, as many of us are talking about what our next upgrades will be.

Thank you.


The reply.

The mounts are great. Most people don't mind the added vibration that the rear mount gives. The side mount is more noticable. I'm not sure when the SVT mount will be released, but it will be soon. I wish I could fully convey how the mounts are on a Focus with text, but it really comes down to personal preference and your own interpretation of vibration.


Randy

[imajsdaddy]

I saw on focus-central.com that they have the internals for the mounts for $19.00... Can't get much cheaper than that I bet... Arn't the metal parts the same as the stock part, just the rubber materials are different.

[ARMED SVT]

I just read a review of a 65mm throttle body upgrade for the standard focus (didn't test it on the svt) but on the zx3 it showed little if no gain, so I'm sure it's not going to change much on the svt :p

[imajsdaddy]

okay, so here is what I'm getting is what we are looking at for the next group buy...

http://www.focus-central.com/catalo...d=1&sid=&pid=86 FC 65mm TB--SVT Price: $259.00

http://www.focus-central.com/catalo...d=2&sid=&pid=26 FC ORP $199.95

http://www.focus-central.com/catalo...d=3&sid=&pid=46 FC strut tower brace $69.00

http://www.focus-central.com/catalog/details.asp?cid=3&sid=&pid=20 Prothane Motor Mounts Price: $19.95

Pick on or let us know if there is a different idea...

Not to sure about the engine mounts as they are cheap anyway... Unless these aren't the same thing.



Stainless Steel Brake Lines
$99.99 also from http://www.steedafocus.com

[swimmernate]

I vote motor mount and strut tower brace. Make a poll.

[svt170]

The motor mounts are different. The cheaper ones ($20) are for the poly bushings only. Not the metal mount itself. You will need to remove the old rubber and install the new poly.
The more expensive mounts are completely new. The mount itself is made of aircraft grade aluminum (whoop dee doo:rolleyes: ) I would rather go with the whole mount just for the ease of installation, and in case the original mount should crack inthe future. The aircraft grade aluminum shouldn't ever crack. (Anyone disagree?)
The throttle body will not give you any more HP from what everyone has told me. It will give you a better throttle response, and that is what I'm after. HP mods are different than performance mods, visual mods, or others. I see the TB as a performance mod, and I'm getting one.

[Interceptor2k]

I have been looking for Throttle body info for a while (before this became a topic) and I can not find anyone who actually has one. All the comments that I have read have stated that it should improve response, but no real hp gain.

Anyone with first hand experience?

[ARMED SVT]

The svt focus stock throttle body is just fine for a stock set up. If your engine is making more power than stock, however, a throttle body can add as much as 5 or 6 hp. Your engine won't benefit from more air unless it actually needs that air because it is making more power than stock; svt engineered your current throttle body for your car and it should be more than large enough to let in the air your engine needs. So if you've got a lot of power producing mods I'd get a tb, otherwise I wouldn't waste my money.

[imajsdaddy]

See, I've heard that it doesn't do anything for HP Which is fine... Because it add throttle response... Meaning the dead feel at sub 2000 RPM's goes away and it actually goes from a low RPM start...

Thats what I have heard anyway!
Thats what I want!

[cdsilver02]

I have the rear motor mounts and they add engine flex from the stock bushing to the frame and the rest of the car. If you get the VF you cannot "tweak" the feel of the mount. But, if you get the replacement bushings then you can "tweak" by Taking a very small drill bit and making some very small holes. This is so you can take your ride and make it what you want. I am not saying go crazy just make sure that you don't over do it

My motor mount cost me 17.95 Focus-central. I cut the old ones out of the stock mount and with a hand press at Napa had it in, in less than an hour.

[imajsdaddy]

Is it something that really makes a big difference?

I can see doing a replacement of all the bushing to the aftermarket ones... This helping the "Ride" feel better...

Donno... I can't see it doing much... Who cares about the rear engine motor mount.

[BlurryBlue]

I have mine just haven't installed it yet...everyone I talked to said it gets rid of the 1st to 2nd SMASH at high RPMs

An experienced driver can easily "feel" the engine/tranny moving with a high RPM shift in ANY gear!




I will install mine soon as I get some new air-tools for my new compressor!:fryem:

[Nevik]

I have the vf engineering motor mount and am very happy with it! It restricts motor movement on hard launches, I heard something like the intake smacking the firewall on a couple hard launches. Got the vf motor mount and it no longer does this. It might give off a little vibration coming to stops but I think it was worth the purchase.

I would have to agree with armed svt about the throttle body as well. Maybe if you get rid of the cat, get better exhaust, and even a aem cai you might see a gain in throttle body upgrade.

[Interceptor2k]

Originally posted by imajsdaddy
See, I've heard that it doesn't do anything for HP Which is fine... Because it add throttle response... Meaning the dead feel at sub 2000 RPM's goes away and it actually goes from a low RPM start...

Thats what I have heard anyway!
Thats what I want!

That is what I am intersted in too. However, it pisses me off to think that Ford finds the low rpm response acceptable, and that I have to spend $250+ to correct................ I will end up holding out to see if future ECM updates will correct.