Zainio Question

[uvbnbit]

I just got the car back from having some stuff done, and now I need to detail it again. I switched over to Zaino, and did all of the following for my first application of Zaino:
1. Washed Car with dishwashing detergent to take off existing wax.
2. Clay bar entire car.
3. Wash car again with mild car soap.
4. Dry.
5. Applied 3 - 4 coats of Z5/ZFX Accelerator
6. Applied Z6

My question to all of the Zaino fanatics is when I wash my car again I do not half to wash with detergent again, righ?
Can I just wash the car with a mild soap, and apply my Zaino products, or do I have to clay bar the car first? if I do clay bar the car won't it take off any existing Zaino I have on the car?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
- Erik

[PETSNKE]

Good question!

I just put a single coat of Z5 on last weekend over the existing I applied the winter before last. My initial application then was the same as yours pretty much, except I don't use the ZFX. My car saw about 4000 miles last year and I always wiped it down with the Z6 detailer spray after every wash. The finish looked pretty clean, so why clay bar. I was wondering if I needed to use the Z1 polish lock before the Z5, but assumed that's only after you remove the existing with the clay bar. So I just applied a coat of Z5 with using the Z6 detailer spray stuff before and after. I planned on applying multiple coats again, but the car looked so damn good I just left as is. It actually looks better now
than when I did the whole process originally. I'll wait till after I wash it to at least apply a coat of optically perfect Z2.

I think winddysvt said they were Zaino distributors, she might be of more help.

Sorry for the long post, BTW how does the car run?

[uvbnbit]

I have to tell ya, WOW. I am not much of a street racer, but I came across a Z06, and the guy in the car was real nice. Punched once or twice, but no racing, due to traffic. Constant wine from the blower (which I wanted, and a real fly by the seat of the pants after 3000 rpm's)
- Erik

ps. I can upgrade my sig.

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by uvbnbit
I just got the car back from having some stuff done, and now I need to detail it again. I switched over to Zaino, and did all of the following for my first application of Zaino:
1. Washed Car with dishwashing detergent to take off existing wax.
2. Clay bar entire car.
3. Wash car again with mild car soap.
4. Dry.
5. Applied 3 - 4 coats of Z5/ZFX Accelerator
6. Applied Z6

My question to all of the Zaino fanatics is when I wash my car again I do not half to wash with detergent again, righ?
Can I just wash the car with a mild soap, and apply my Zaino products, or do I have to clay bar the car first? if I do clay bar the car won't it take off any existing Zaino I have on the car?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
- Erik

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Erik:

The only time that you ever use dishwashing detergent (dawn) on your car is to totally strip it down to the clear coat -- removing all wax and removing all oxidization from the paint with the dawn and with the clay bar.

After that -- you polish !!

Please use Zaino Car wash ONLY --
don't use anything else --

I sell Zaino -- I really don't make much of a profit on it --
but I have it if you need it --

If anyone needs any you can call me at 630-774-5810 and I will get back to you as quickly as possible.

Depending upon whether your car is a daily driver -- or just for nice days --
you shouldn't have to clay bar very often.

I do my show car every two years.... The truck gets done once a year....

at the beginning of each year, I use the Polish Loc first and then apply the Z5.

I'm not a true believe in using too much of the ZFX --



use it sparingly !!

remember --
if you allow it to dry way too fast then your not getting the top benefit out of that coat of polish you just put on. Thats just my opinion -- but its from my experience in working with Zaino and all the cars that I have done (mine and others).

Its very important to let that first coat sit for awhile !! Each coat you apply will take less and less time to dry, and less time to take off. It will get easier -- my vert now takes about 1/2 hour to polish -- I still let it dry for a half a day cuz I'm so picky but it doesn't take long to get it off.

Remember to use the Z6 in between coats of polish ...

that is what will help you have that deep mirror look as you go...

the more you use it -- the deeper that mirror shine is gonna be...

I didn't believe it when I first started using it 4 years ago ... but I've used just about everything ---

Now, I use Zaino and only Zaino......

Any other questions let me know --
I cannot even count how many cars I have done.... And, the difference was phenominal!

Last year -- they did a

Comparison test --

Zymol, McGuires and Zaino....



Guess what?

Zaino won .....

and that was from a true McGuires "believer"......

I'm gonna try and see if I can still find the link for the test.....

[SJ Cobra]

Hey Erik, Petsnke says you wanna run em'.:D Just kiddin', there's a huge difference with supercharging, isn't there?;) Welcome!!


Scott

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01' cobra vert./triple black/#552
SHM 575 longblock/vortech sc trim w/ aftercooler
lots more:haha:

[uvbnbit]

The power is indescribable. You have the aftercooler, don't ya?
- Erik:jawdrop:

[uvbnbit]

If I read your sig I would anwer my own question. Dagwood doesn't have
the aftercooler, correct?:wtf:

[SJ Cobra]

You are correct. The aftercooler adds another 30-40 hp. Are you running the stock gears?

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by uvbnbit
I have to tell ya, WOW. I am not much of a street racer, but I came across a Z06, and the guy in the car was real nice. Punched once or twice, but no racing, due to traffic. Constant wine from the blower (which I wanted, and a real fly by the seat of the pants after 3000 rpm's)
- Erik

ps. I can upgrade my sig.


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it's exhilerating isn't it?

I had to "relearn" the car ... literally... especially since it was late fall when we had the blower installed and we had our stock tires/wheels on.

We did nothing but spin until we practiced.....

p.s.
Zaino will make it go even faster......... :D

[uvbnbit]

How much for a bottle? Maybe I can pick it up today, and bring my dirty car over before I go workout... I am usually home around 4:30
- Erik

[uvbnbit]

Yes, I am running the stock gears, just til I can figure how plant this rubber...

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by uvbnbit
How much for a bottle? Maybe I can pick it up today, and bring my dirty car over before I go workout... I am usually home around 4:30
- Erik


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that would be fine !!

A bottle is $7.95 --

no tax - no shipping charges. :D


I have to run up to Rolling Meadows tonight to pick up some supplies from Pat --
I could meet you somewhere if you would like --
let me know...

and, like I said, I do not make very much money off of it at all -- I just sell it to my friends and they get to save on the shipping costs. I want people to use it, its awesome !!

Bonny

[Snoopy]

So whats better, Zaino or Meguiars (natural waxes) Looks like we need to have a "Wax Off" competition. What if we took a car that was slightly neglected and did one side of the hood with Zaino and the other with Meguiars? Then we can see which one REALLY shines and looks the best.

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by Dagwood
Then we can see which one REALLY shines and looks the best.
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Zaino. Period :rolleyes: --- I have seen test after test done and so far, everyone that I have seen --- the Zaino won. Hands down. Zymol believers and McGuires lovers are now Zaino users..... Zymol cost more, McGuires cost less.... Note: The Zaino application has to be done correctly or the above will not apply.....

I have been polishing cars since I was a little girl --
Zaino in my opinion is the very best..... As long as it is done right! And its easier than you think.... I've tried all the rest.
Granted, I am extremely fanatical about the shine --
but think about it ---


Was your SVT / Cobra cheap?NO !!! ----and neither should the care of it be "cheap"....

I am not a salesman... I couldn't sell something just by words cuz people never believe me.

All I know is that my '98's paint looked like trash three years ago.... trash !! :eek:
and I tried everything !! I Cried !! :eek:
until I found Zaino.... and.. :jawdrop: :tmb: :bna :cool: SHE's BACK !!!!

heres a quote from my thread above: =============

Any other questions let me know -- I cannot even count how many cars I have done.... And, the difference was phenominal!

Last year -- they did a Comparison test -- Zymol, McGuires and Zaino.... Guess what? Zaino won ..... One car -- three different sections -

and that was from a true McGuires "believer"...... I'm gonna try and see if I can still find the link for the test.....


__________________
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I am searching for the link...

if it still exists -
I will find it !!

[PETSNKE]

I'll stick with Mothers or Meguires for my daily driver. Why?
Zaino is not compatible to just about everything else out there. Can't run through a automatic car wash. Gotta buy new 100% made in the USA cotton towels and cut the edges off it because the thread could have polyester in it. People think I'm nuts for buying new towels at Sears and then cutting them up so I can use them to wash/wax my car. I just clay bar every spring and apply a coat of pure carnuba wax. And BTW, my daily driver was cheap, so I'll stick with the cheaper product.

As for the Cobra, Zaino looks/works great!

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by PETSNKE
I'll stick with Mothers or Meguires for my daily driver. Why?
Zaino is not compatible to just about everything else out there. Can't run through a automatic car wash. Gotta buy new 100% made in the USA cotton towels and cut the edges off it because the thread could have polyester in it. People think I'm nuts for buying new towels at Sears and then cutting them up so I can use them to wash/wax my car. I just clay bar every spring and apply a coat of pure carnuba wax. And BTW, my daily driver was cheap, so I'll stick with the cheaper product.

As for the Cobra, Zaino looks/works great!

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my brother in law said the same thing --

and used McGuires on his every day car...

he cussed and kicked himself when he was done because it took twice as long to get the McGuires off .....

No --
you are not NUTS for buying new towels and cutting them up.

Your car is worth it!

P.S.: I buy 100% cotton diapers....

now - people think I'm the one thats "nuts"......

:bna :cool:

[Snoopy]

Is the white 100% cotton thing really a big deal. If I use an old "clean" green towel will the process not work? I'm planning on using zaino next time i wax the cobra. Is there anything else I need to know about zaino. Will Dawn remove it if I want to remove it later?

[PETSNKE]

Originally posted by Dagwood
Is the white 100% cotton thing really a big deal

Yeah it is a big deal, anything with polyester or nylon in it will actually put tiny scratches in the polymer instead of polishing it. The instructions insist on using towels made in the USA because the textile industry over seas is not regulated as well and they will mix polyester in and still label it as 100% cotton.

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by Dagwood
Is the white 100% cotton thing really a big deal. If I use an old "clean" green towel will the process not work? I'm planning on using zaino next time i wax the cobra. Is there anything else I need to know about zaino. Will Dawn remove it if I want to remove it later?

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Yes --

Dawn will remove it.

AND



YES !!!!!

100% cotton towel or diaper is a necessity....

don't use anything else but cotton, please !!

Anything else has the possibility of scratching your baby, and leaving "swirl" marks and/or superficial scratches that don't look so good!!!

Next time your behind someone in the bright sunshine -- take a look at their "polish" job. Can you see any "marks" at all in the paint?

if you can... they are not using 100% cotton and they are more than likely wiping the car in the wrong direction or worse...

:wtf: :eek: the "F" word.....

Taking it thru a car wash:jawdrop:

and.... yes --
we do have a trophy for our hard work.

We have shown three times.

The first two were without Zaino --

the last was "with" Zaino.... :)

I'm not very good at too many things -- so that trophy means the world to me......

"sweat and tears"....

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by Dagwood
Is the white 100% cotton thing really a big deal. If I use an old "clean" green towel will the process not work? I'm planning on using zaino next time i wax the cobra. Is there anything else I need to know about zaino. Will Dawn remove it if I want to remove it later?

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Jim --

let me know if you need any Zaino.


You will not have to chase it down -- I will make sure you get it,
and you won't have to pay for shipping.

I keep a good stock of it in my basement.

Besides the fact that we have so many cars - ours and family that use Zaino.. I like to keep extra for friends in the neighborhood.

As I mentioned before -- I do not make very much money off it at all. I am an assistant "rep"... hoping to someday be the "rep" for the suburbs if I can get enough clientelle......

being in most of the time, the only way I can do so is via word of mouth and the "clubs".....

Bonny
630-774-5810

[SJ Cobra]

Bonnie, I've been using Mequires #7 and the medallion wax since I've had my Cobra. I guess I'm finding it hard to believe Zaino would make my finish look any better, not to be tooting my own horn here.:wtf:

Scott

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01' cobra vert./ triple black/ #552
SHM 575 longblock/ vortech sc trim w/ aftercooler
592rwhp/468rwtq:guns:

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by SJ Cobra
Bonnie, I've been using Mequires #7 and the medallion wax since I've had my Cobra. I guess I'm finding it hard to believe Zaino would make my finish look any better, not to be tooting my own horn here.:wtf:

Scott

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01' cobra vert./ triple black/ #552
SHM 575 longblock/ vortech sc trim w/ aftercooler
592rwhp/468rwtq:guns:

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Scott --

I thought the same thing --

We are even finding out that we could've saved a whole lot of money years ago by not having the "Protector" applied.

Our '99 has the Protector -- and, it looks good. And we always thought that was the best way to go....

But, it doesn't look as good as Zaino does.....
come and see the comparison if you would like.

Our son's 98 had an "expensive brand" polish on it when we bought it.... and we were given complements on how good it looked.

It wasn't good enough for me. Tom and I finally got around to putting the 3rd coat of Zaino on it and it looks better now... a few more coats and he will be ready for show season -- and winter.

In the end, it is what you decide Scott --

whatever works best for you as the cars owner --

thats what you stick with.

I was not easily convinced either you know.....
but, it was drilled into me by someone in SCMC who won in car shows time after time after time......

and....
the results of a "catastrophe"
with our '98 ... ... former owner parked it under a tree in North Carolina - blazing sun / tree sap -
wedged into the paint...
(tried everything ....)

until Zaino - then, it turned into a dream come true!

:cool::)

[winddysvt]

yes ---

we even tried McGuires...

although, by now I'm sure there formula has improved....

but it wasn't good enough for what I needed....

[SJ Cobra]

So Bonnie, can I just use Zaino's right over my Meguires without stripping down to the clear?:huh: If so, I think I might just take you up on a comparison.:confused:

Scott

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by SJ Cobra
So Bonnie, can I just use Zaino's right over my Meguires without stripping down to the clear?:huh: If so, I think I might just take you up on a comparison.:confused:

Scott


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if ya wanna comparison your gonna have to strip it down to nothing.....

:rolleyes:

I see no problem with using the Zaino over the McGuires but you couldn't really make a comparison because those first 2-3 coats are so crucial....

(don't worry, I don't kiss my car goodnight... .. but I do check it every night......) :rolleyes:


:haha:

[Snoopy]

WHat do you mean you don't kiss your car good night. I thought we were all car lovers here.:spank:
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

[3ponies]

Our 66 Emberglo GT sat at my brothers in Indiana for a week. I picked it up Sunday it was the dirtiest I've ever seen it. Leaves, dust and maple sap. I'll be glad to let there be a wax off on it! May the cleanest side win!!
:spinem:
Of course I will expect the loser to finish the treatment!
Rick:bna

[winddysvt]

Originally posted by Dagwood
WHat do you mean you don't kiss your car good night. I thought we were all car lovers here.:spank:
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

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oooops sorry !!........


I'll go kiss her right now...

hold on a minute cuz I'm gonna have to get a step ladder to do it since she's almost touching the roof......

.....


:spank:

........................:jawdrop:

:kiss:

:kiss:
ok -

hows that?

that better?


:kiss: :kiss:

[fafafoey]

ZAINO Rules. Use the Z7 Zaino wash to wash the car. I only wash mine a couple of times per summer and use Z6 most of the time.

[winddysvt]

It kind of worries me that so many of you are saving that you only wash your car a few times......

don't forget .....

there is pollution in the air....

your car can just sit there, in the garage,
with or without a cover on .....

and pollution can "adhere" to it.....

wash it more..... use something gentle like Zaino.....

I used to think the same thing...

but now that I wash mine more --
they are looking better.....
I believe I was wrong to do that. Granted, its difficult to do it in the middle of winter -- but at least spring summer and fall we wash it more.

In the middle of winter we alternate leaving the cover on and off to allow the paint to "breath"...... and then wipe it down with warm water a cotton diaper and maybe some of the Zaino spray Z6 to help remove whatever Nasties that may have adhered themselves to the paint ( water won't remove unseen pollution ) .....

just my .02 cents worth, but its from "experience"....
something I have noticed and done myself.

[winddysvt]

again ....




water will not remove unseen pollution and car "germs" that can destroy your paint.......



a little bit of Zaino could help ..... :rolleyes:

or McGuires,
or Zymol --

or whatever it is that you use..... use it! :tmb:

[3ponies]

I think the 66 needs the mega strip clay bar, cleaner stripper and then polished and waxed. It sat at my brother's under a tree for a week and it feels like sandpaper when I run my hand accross the trunk. It must have some paint overspray from my other projects on it! Oh well I need to block some time before Gears & Ears to kill the germs and get rid of the dead bodies!

Rick:bash:

[Briangt]

winddysvt

i would like to try the Zaino do you have the Kit ?
Zaino Bros' Total Protection Show Car Kit