View Full Version : WELCOME KENNY BROWN, our newest SVTOA sponsor!
Greg@SVTOA
10-18-2002, 10:27 PM
We're pleased to announce that Kenny Brown Performance (http://www.kennybrown.com) is our newest sponsor! We are still working out the precise details as to what SVTOA member discounts will be, but we are very pleased to have Kenny Brown as one of our sponsors. Keep an eye on our website for pending information!!!
Speed Racer
10-28-2002, 04:43 PM
Cool,
Kenny Builds a Sweet Ride
Keep up the good work Kenny:tmb:
Beabout
10-28-2002, 06:31 PM
Outstanding :bna :bna :bna
roger
10-29-2002, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Greg@SVTOA
We're pleased to announce that Kenny Brown Performance (http://www.kennybrown.com) is our newest sponsor! We are still working out the precise details as to what SVTOA member discounts will be, but we are very pleased to have Kenny Brown as one of our sponsors. Keep an eye on our website for pending information!!!
Greg; sounds great. Please let us know when it all gets nailed down.
David A. Wilks
10-29-2002, 07:11 AM
Now if we could only get Paul Brown to hook us up with some great parts there would be some good market competition. That would bring the prices down so that we could afford more.
Maximum Motorsports is building some new parts for the SVT Cobras. I have been on contact with them recently and know they are working hard for us.
MINERALGSVT
10-29-2002, 05:24 PM
Well... I don't want to speak for Kenny Brown Performance.. but the discount is probably going to be 10% on KBP manufactured parts... pretty good deal in my book!
They are one of our sponsors for the chapter in Indianapolis! We have our monthly meetings at their place and always get the inside scoop on their latest projects.
Here is a shot of Kenny Brown under our President's '03 Vert, which just had the Extreme Matrix Installed..
http://www.indysvtoa.com/images/kb_extreme_03.jpg
I usually post their new stuff on our chapter site www.indysvtoa.com
They are great to work with!! Just ask for Mike or Rich!
David A. Wilks
10-29-2002, 06:07 PM
Is that how they installed it..???!!! OMG!! How about bend a car and then WELD it into place.
When installing ANY frame supporting devices, you MUST weight the car on all four wheels. You Cannot hoist it up on the jacking points and expect your car to NOT FLEX!! Especially on convertibles. I know of a shop that did that to a guy's convertible here in Houston... one of those "Infamous" Mustang tunas. They welded in subframes and a four point roll bar. When they finally took the car off of the jackstands, the doors would not shut!!
Another rig fix called marketing. The proper frame support kit that is needed for a convertible is made by Griggs racing. It actually channels into the floor and subs into the factory front subframe, extends to the rear bulkhead finally welded to the torque box area. This completes a full frame kit and is the only true way to tighten up a convertible. All those cross brace kits just add a ton of MORE weight to an already heavy car. Do it right once and forget it. Do it right and not lose more ground clearance.
I am not trying to be the Horse's ass here. Its just that so many people get scammed by these so called Tunas of Cars to think they NEED the latest and greatest. A little education and true engineering go much further with a lot less destruction.
MINERALGSVT
10-29-2002, 06:51 PM
No.
The picture was taken after the install. His doors shut fine and so do mine.
No ground clearance was loss, hell, I hit more stuff with the factory piece o crap brace under the k member.
Some people, like me, do not want roll bars or whatever welded through their floors. I drive my car everyday. It is not a track car.
The extreme matrix made a world of difference in tightening up my car.
Thanks for your concern.
btw: Just checked out your webpage.. any more details on that IRS in your Saleen.. very nice indeed!
Speed Racer
10-29-2002, 06:57 PM
I have quite the experience in this area, I am not nocking griggs but I can tell you kenny has put a lot of engineering in his product
Now one thing i can tell you is that Ford motor company did there research, the unibody construction of the mustang has pretty good integrity although it has some body flex, I must say that a full frame is extreme, if i wanted a full frame i would scrap the car and make my own tubular chassis thro some sheetmetal over it and call it done
I would preffer Using the extreme matrix subframe connectors and a roll cage to tighten my car up for this reasoning, I will be substantially lighter then a full frame I would still have made an already good solid chassis stronger and i would be leaving your full framed monster sitting in my dust hehe, no pun intended
think about it! the matrix setup weighs about what maybe 60 lbs, it ties all the weak points together to streanghthen it and a full frame does what adds about 300 lbs, installation is a nightmare and it surly destines your vehicle to be cut up at sometime in its lifspan to become someones race car or parts car
I think I will stick to tube technology that defines engineering / that is getting the most efficiency from the least we all know a full frame car is sturdy but i know of a lot of full frame cars that have twisted coming off the line at the strip!!
Oh and one last thing I know from experience, well at least when I worked there that all subframe conectors were welded on with the tires holding the car up not the lift and im not taking up for Kenny either I doubt he would give me the time off day. But I do know almost as much about his products as he does and I would recommend his products to everyone even if I didnt like Kenny at all not to say that i dont but Like I Said I dont think he would give me the time of day
I would recommend ya give him a call and ask him about his chassis kits, He has all the details im sure you would be very impressed
David A. Wilks
10-30-2002, 05:42 AM
think about it! the matrix setup weighs about what maybe 60 lbs, it ties all the weak points together to streanghthen it and a full frame does what adds about 300 lbs, installation is a nightmare and it surly destines your vehicle to be cut up at sometime in its lifspan to become someones race car or parts car
This is misleading and incorrect. the Griggs Full frame kit is not anywhere 60 pounds and I can vouch that any setup for racing that Griggs does build has weight at a major concern.
In fact the full frame kit is completely un-noticeable from outside the car and almost undetectable inside the car. It consists of 2X2" box steel tubes channeled into the floor under the driver's foot area, into the factory front subframe. It extends rearward to the bulkhead and an additional rear webbing plate. It is then welded in place to create a full box that eliminates torsional twist.
Entire weight is no more than 20 pounds. It certainly takes more time to install, but is much more effective because the structure it is welded to is hard structure, not pinch welded sheet metal floor pans or seams.
If your setup works for you, thats great. By all means enjoy your car. I certainly enjoy mine and she is far from perfect... yet.
I receive emails and calls each day with people asking questions about how to make their vehicles better. My first question is always what is their intended use. If you want the most in frame rigidity, this system is it. When SVE built the Boss 429 project, they needed the most in frame rigidity and this is what Bruce Griggs designed for that car. Works for Ford... It can work for me.
As for my IRS setup... I will have more pics posted on it as soon as I finish everything. I just received my '00R model rear springs and will be installing them soon. I am awaiting my Bullitt front brakes and rear calipers before going back in for more suspension surgery. I think the red calipers will look good on the car and their increased braking ability will compliment the good power the car has.
Elapidae
10-30-2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Greg@SVTOA
We're pleased to announce that Kenny Brown Performance (http://www.kennybrown.com) is our newest sponsor! We are still working out the precise details as to what SVTOA member discounts will be, but we are very pleased to have Kenny Brown as one of our sponsors. Keep an eye on our website for pending information!!!
Great news :tmb:
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